Street Sounds / UK Fresh Reunion / 16th July 2011

  • I would just like to say that if ANYONE wants to put on a show with lots of old school artists...Please contact me Rob: ukfresh@hotmail.com i can get:
    DJ Cheese
    Mc Chill
    The Aleems
    Captain Rock
    Imperial Bros
    Egyptian Lover
    Mc Shan
    Knight Of The Turntables
    Davy DMX
    Newculus
    The B-Boys
    Spyder D
    Sparky D

    I know many of them for many years and all are willing to play here in the UK!

  • Quote from Robbie123;54791

    I would just like to say that if ANYONE wants to put on a show with lots of old school artists...Please contact me Rob: ukfresh@hotmail.com i can get:

    Captain Rock
    Newculus
    The B-Boys

    I know many of them for many years and all are willing to play here in the UK!

    If they had the same contract as I did, then you best take them off the list for another 3 months, as Street Sounds have blocked all performances in the UK for 90 days. Best verify that with them; clause 24.

  • Alright lads I just thought I'd say summat. I went on Saturday as a fan, pure and simple. I met the person who was responsible for the sound track to my youth, Morgan Khan. I met Captain Rock. Did you read what I just wrote? I MET CAPTAIN ROCK!!!! I saw Arthur Baker onstage. I don't care about who did what with production credits and all that, as far as I'm concerned, 2 of the biggest records and most influential records in my life, Breakers revenge & Planet Rock had him involved. And Newcleus? JAM ON IT? I repeat.. JAM ON IT LIVE IN FRONT OF MY EYES!!!!

    I'm not really in this forum much, in fact I'm hardly ever here, no reason other than not enough time to go round. I had a real laugh and met loads of people with like minds & some people I'd known from other forums & online, plus I was with a great crowd of people.

    All I gotta say is big respect to everyone I met, you won't hear any negativity from me! Props to anyone off EE that was there. See ya!


  • Bit biased towards nu skool artists this list as there are many nu skool electro producers on this forum if you do need any FRESH new talent though contact Matt ;)

  • RE: Riddler

    Sorry, I was just listing the people who I knew from the old school days of UK FRESH. Im not really a booking agent. I have just build up a good rep with the following artists and I help out in whatever way I can.

  • Quote from Robbie123;54791

    I would just like to say that if ANYONE wants to put on a show with lots of old school artists...Please contact me Rob: ukfresh@hotmail.com i can get:


    I know many of them for many years and all are willing to play here in the UK!

    (Quotes Jim Carrey Ace Ventura) Re- e- e- e- ee- e- aa- a- a- lly :tooth:


  • If you can make this happen then just go for it!!.. whats stopping you?

    its a dream line up..but sadly i feel its just that...a dream.
    i have to be honest..i think the chances of there being an event remotely close to FRESH 86 in the UK are less than zero... its sad, but its also reality.


    if you can prove me wrong...by all means do so..id support you all the way.

    but i really feel that we have seen the last of live old skool electro on uk soil.


    and that really is a sickener....


  • On a positive note, isn't it time we concentrated on the fresh talent? Nuskool electro is the bomb, so many awesome producers, a night of nuskool would not only be amazing, pushing the current scene forward, but also be a much cheaper night to run. I for one only have two arms and two legs, and can't afford to spend any of them.

    I'm open for bookings anywhere, but I will never touch street sounds again..

  • The hate is amazing! Not a complaint from anyone who was actually there, those people all loved it, and the place was packed! Y'all first said it wouldn't happen, now when it did and it was a success you try to say it wasn't. Sad. It's not my style to bitch and moan, or to call people out, but Nick and Richie... really? And Hector, I'm sorry about what happened with the passes, and I am well pissed about it, but there basically was no backstage so you didn't really miss anything, unless the passes entitled you to free drinks or something, I don't know.

    Look, you people don't know what it's like to be really FUCKED in the music business. I do. That's why I have dedicated my actions in this business ever since to educating others who look to make their living in the same way. Listen and learn, or don't and get fucked. I would and will deal with Morgan Khan any day of the week, but I understand that it is a BUSINESS and deal with it accordingly. He honored everything in my contract except a couple of passes, and he WILL make good on that too.

    You want your music to be a hobby, go for it, that's exactly what it will be.

  • Quote from LektroiD;54794

    If they had the same contract as I did, then you best take them off the list for another 3 months, as Street Sounds have blocked all performances in the UK for 90 days. Best verify that with them; clause 24.


    I would never sign anything like that Richie. My contract was for 30 days ahead and 3 days after. You have to fight for what you want.

  • Quote from Cozmo D;54816

    I would never sign anything like that Richie. My contract was for 30 days ahead and 3 days after. You have to fight for what you want.

    I would have liked to discuss that with khan, but when he wasn't yelling rants down the phone at me over something that was none of my business, he was ignoring all contact, making it impossible to negotiate anything. Next thing I was off the bill...


    I only got my contract a few weeks prior to the event, and when I got it, it included Xidus (the rapper on Welcome to the Future – NE3). I said that I did not want to be tied into the same contract or have to mentor him. I didn't want the responsibility of organising someone else, especially since the contract stated if any party should not turn up then I would owe Street Sounds travel expenses, accommodation and any other fees agreed in their entirety. I did not want this responsibility if Xidus for some reason could not make it. So I said I would like separate contracts, this version of the contract arrived just 1 week prior to the event, but there were still clauses to be discussed.

    I had Kate phone me on Friday 8th July (8 days before the event), saying she must book a hotel and had to do it within that phone call, as they close by 5 o'clock, and if I did not agree to sharing a room with Xidus, she would only book one night (not the two we needed), so I said I would take Friday. I spoke to Xidus that evening who said he was not available on the Friday, so I got back in touch with Morgan to tell him, and all I had was ranting that it was booked because I had agreed to it (although I only agreed to my accommodation requirements, not Xidus'), I also didn’t need to know how stressed he is, how much weight he has lost, or how he’s missed his daughter's birthday (her 3rd birthday this year funnily enough). This is no way to be treated, whether I am a recording artist or dog shit. This was unfair that I was put in that position right at the last minute. My skills are as a musician, not an organiser or artist management, so why I was lumbered with such a feat at the last moment? I don't really know Xidus that well, and don't even live in the same city (I'm in Edinburgh, Scotland, he is in Peterborough, England, 350 miles away).

    The travel and accommodation should have been organised months prior to the event, and for months I tried to get this sorted, yet Morgan was making it impossible to get hold of him, and I tried every possible means to make contact. I even mentioned Morgan's elusiveness on Facebook, as I was unsure the event was even going ahead. This was the only time he actually contacted me (interestingly within seconds of my posting), asking me to remove my comment, and that ‘it would all be arranged in good time’.

    There was one clause I wanted to discuss with Morgan in the contract saying I could not perform in the UK for 90 days after the event, this would block off my whole summer of performances, and I have already agreed to perform in Edinburgh the following week (21st July). It also stated I could not perform 100 days prior to the event, which I already have. This would be breach of contract before I even signed it. I wanted to discuss this with Morgan, but the few times I have managed to speak with him literally with only days to go, all I had was him ranting that I hadn't sorted Xidus' train tickets and accommodation. As an artist, I was not even aware this was my job. Nobody had told me.

    Not only that, the fee I had agreed for myself was written into the joint contract, this was £250, which is very cheap considering this was to include both my performance and keyboard playing for Newcleus. I told Morgan that I didn't want my fee disclosed. When Xidus got his contract (within a week to go), he had not been offered a fee, so I told him to take that up with Morgan, as I had agreed mine already. This lead to another phone-call from Street Sounds, this time it was Kate (Khan’s PA) ranting at me saying my agreed fee was to be shared with Xidus. Then phoned Xidus about the situation and tried to turn him against me. This was the last I heard from Street Sounds, until someone mentioned there was a notice on the Street Sounds website saying I was not performing due to ‘contractual issues’.

    There was also a mailshot "One Week To Go". I was not included in this mailshot; both my name and Xidus’ had already been omitted. This was posted around on the 9th, before Morgan even started his rants with me, so maybe Morgan had already decided he didn't want me there before he started shouting his rants at me. I didn't even know I was off the bill until I saw it announced on Street Sounds website, and that’s the reason I was not at UK Fresh 2011.

  • One thing also..Was there any merchandise on sale. I mean did NEWCLEUS/THE B BOYS/CAPTAIN ROCK have shirts available? or anything else?..

  • As Cozmo states this industry is a business. Everybody is out to get what they want for themselves. This is not a BAD thing its just business. Contracts can be changed or ammended. Morgan has been screwed over many times you just have to take these on the head and learn from the past.
    What you have here are old school artists and ppl like Morgan who have been in this industry for many many years, they know how it works and how to get the best deal. Both have been screwed out of money, they learn from these errors and get tougher. Its just like any other business at the end of the day...a way to earn money and keep a roof over your head.
    As for me promoting a concert....not on your life!!! haha I have no problem arranging acts, but to put up that amount of $$ after just buying a house...sorry. I dont have the balls to do that.
    As for t-shirts capt Rock will have some official shirts before long.

  • I was hoping to get feed back from people who were there, infact i was looking forward to being envious at missing out on a great night but all this seems to be about is personnal grief, anyone who was thinking of promoting an old school event reading this wouldn't fuckin bother.

    How did the acts perform?
    Was the vibe good?
    How were the DJ's?

  • Quote from Robbie123;54822

    As Cozmo states this industry is a business. Everybody is out to get what they want for themselves. This is not a BAD thing its just business.

    Not all businesses treat their artists like shit. I've always maintained a healthy relationship with everyone else I've worked with in the industry for the past 19 years.

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    Contracts can be changed or ammended.


    Not when the employer ignores the contractor, then when he does finally communicate, it is just rants that are none of my business. So in this case, there was no way he would entertain a change in contract.

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    Morgan has been screwed over many times you just have to take these on the head and learn from the past.


    So that gives him the right to fuck others over? I know I'm not the only one.

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    What you have here are old school artists and ppl like Morgan who have been in this industry for many many years, they know how it works and how to get the best deal.


    for himself, yes.

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    Both have been screwed out of money, they learn from these errors and get tougher. Its just like any other business at the end of the day...a way to earn money and keep a roof over your head.


    As I said, it doesn't give him the right to fuck others over.

    He refused to refund tickets to my close friends who paid solely to see my performance. They also paid for travel and accommodation, which was too late to get refunds on, since Khan pulled the plug on me at the last minute - with no good reason, 'contractual issues' my arse! He wouldn't even discuss the contract with me.

    I don't know who you are or why you are defending such an entrapment, but you've only just appeared on the forum, another one of Khan's puppets, stirring shit that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

  • Let me get this straight.

    people fly from the states to perform at a one off show with a crowd of a possible 1000.

    yet none of the artist thought to print up some shirts?


    im not nit picking..printing merchandise for a live show is basic common sense.

    i dont think ive ever been to a live show in my life where the artists performing did not have merchandise for sale.

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