Posts by Breakmixer

    Quote from doctorcrack;72003

    deltacity, check out the CBR - Underground Electro Volumes. I would say youw ill find the best current electro/hiphop tunes with an old school vibe on them..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4hJCRQcYvI

    +1 on this lp, haven't had a chance to give it a good listen yet - just skipped through - but it is cool,

    @ Deltacity, I don't think it is the london accent that is the problem you are finding with M.C's but the way they rap these days is a different style.

    Remember Family Quest, Rapologists, Einstein(with CJ Macintosh), Junior Gee & The A-Team, some of my fave Electro Raps are amongst them artists, mostly if not all Londoners.... :cylon:

    Quote from element;71292

    I can't think of many recordings where a skilled dj scratches the same patterns on a different song.
    It's plausible that Imperial Brothers - We come to rock was recorded earlier but delayed & parts of the John Robie , Arthur Bake Freeez session were merged ..

    Whiz Kid is credited on the labels of both Youtubes, I have the Beggars Banquet/Virgin issue of Pop Goes My Love, never noticed Whiz Kid credited before, I also have Imperial Brothers, never noticed on that it was Whiz Kid...

    Quote from element;71294

    This 1987 house remix also has that aaaaaaw sound. The dj also copies some of Whiz Kids scratch patterns.


    Denise Motto - I M N X T C ( Scooby Swift Scratch mix )


    http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/14653187/file.html

    The Awww sound is from Freeez's IOU, Pop Goes My Love was the follow up single, think it also featured being cut up on Breakers Revenge by Arthur Baker.

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    thought i'd revive the thread, vocoders on this one ;D

    Loads on this label I like, it's up there with Tommy Boy, Sunnyview, Def Jam etc etc...

    Here is one I really like - Awesome 808 Rap track

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    Quote from defcreator;70481

    Trap is not really electro hiphop imo as you don't hear scratching like the old 2-Live Crew records and it sounds too commercial...

    Yeah I agree - it's like it has took something from Electro Hip Hop/Miami Bass but doesn't pay homage to the old school - it's a bite of it really if you know what I mean.

    PS I was a big fan of Hip House back in 89, Doug Lazy, Twin Hype, Homeboys Only, Shut Up & Dance, Toni Scott etc etc, still got alot of that on 12"..... :blaster: Electro Rap/Hip Hop was dead at that point in time, guess it was the closest thing to it for me at the time...

    Quote from defcreator;70462

    the point is when i listened to radio back then there was a fairly good chance of hearing electro rap, that's cause we had a lot pirate stations over here..now the electro rap scene doesnt exist anymore on air..either its underground boombap style rap or commercial club rap.

    I know about GFR but thats an internet station mostly playing old skool, not the same as taking a boombox on the streets and listening to to latest jams that came out that week on FM

    probably the last true rap electro hit i can remember is Sir Mix A Lot "Baby got Back"..Whoomp There it is was also a big hit but thats called Booty Bass..but the 90s overall was the decade of Boombap.

    We have actually recently (within the last few years) had a couple of Electro Raps in the charts, although sounding alot more commercial than back in the day...

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    Now we have Trap, which could be seen as a new/modern form of Electro Rap, although more Miami Bass influenced...only heard a bit of this stuff - but on commercial FM radio!

    ps check out these artists...

    http://sp-500.bandcamp.com/

    http://album.vinyllife.com/

    http://www.cutitupdef.org/ciud.html

    http://invisiblerockerscrew.bandcamp.com/track/thats-right-lets-break

    ;D

    Quote from defcreator;70189

    thats not true, back in the 80s a true electro track by the name of "Rock it" topped the wordwide charts, everybody was talking about scratching and most kids (like myself) were breakdancing to the numerous electro jams that many radio stations were playing.

    +0.5(almost +1 ;D ), also Shannon - Let The Music Play, Freeez - IOU, Paul Hardcastle - 19 topped the charts, all being true Electro. Not much real hip hop electro broke the charts though, the closest probably being Macolm Mclaren and the World Famous Supreme Team - Buffalo Gals back in 82/83 and as you say Rockit. The hip hop electro sound was more underground even then(Street Sounds/Tommy Boy etc), Electro crossed over in it's more commercial forms though(Axel F etc).

    Quote from lj;69084

    Since this is the most important track for the evolution of everything this forum is about, I'd like to start a thread where we can collect all the information and stories about Planet Rock. So please contribute! :D

    As a start, I made a video to document all the elements that "Planet Rock" consists of:

    0Fp2SSTPu3g

    You have missed the chorus...

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    Read about it here....

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/arti…tracks_1108.htm

    :cylon:

    Quote from lj;59478

    Would be interesting to get this confirmed or cleared up somehow. I always assumed that Planet Rock was first. I mean they are both from 1982, but maybe somebody has the exact release dates?

    Planet Rock WAS a historical divide, that much is certain. "Clear" (1983) was influenced by Planet Rock; it even contains parts of Planet Rock's melody. The same applies to "Pack Jam" - there was an earlier version from 1981, but the version we all know all of a sudden features parts of Planet Rock's melody.

    Maybe it was 1. Planet Rock 2. Hip Hop Be Bop

    found it... ;D

    http://www.manparrish.com/interview/interview2.asp this says it's looking for the perfect beat with the p-take...not Play At Your Own Risk :-/ Silly Me...

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    I'm also intrigued to hear the version of Clear we know on the 12" is a remix, I'd like to hear the original without it remixed....it's not on the 12"...

    also an Arthur Baker interview with SOS about Planet Rock here...

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/arti…tracks_1108.htm

    :cylon:

    Although Cybotron was already doing 'electro' before Planet Rock, he also wasn't making 'electro', I'm sure even back then he was calling it 'techno', he was influenced by Kraftwerk, New Wave and P-Funk...not hip hop(as told to me by Aux88).

    Funny how they also say that Planet Rock started it, because Man Parrish was doing his stuff at the same time, and the 'woof, woof, woof, woof-woof' was Arthur Bakers and co's little joke on 'Play At Your Own Risk' - because Man Parrish - Hip Hop Be Bop had 'woofs' on it.

    I think hip hop influenced Herbie Hancock to make 'Rockit' and in turn 'Rockit' influenced Aleem to make 'Release Yourself', I read that on some Aleem album write-up,

    So you did have some artists then starting to borrow ideas from each other, hence more artists started making 'Electro Funk', but really it was synthesizer funk backed hip hop music.
    Hip Hop was a bigger movement than Electro Funk. I'm sure it was only us in the UK that called it Electro Funk back then...

    I've also read many times these old school artist refer to that early stuff as either hip hop or just dance music, I also did read that Afrika Bambaataa coined the 'Electro Funk' tag to describe his Planet Rock sound back then...

    Funny though that Miami Bass was mainly influenced by Planet Rock, but is Miami Bass the same style/music as Electro Funk? I think not...closely related though.

    Maybe(Just maybe), 'Electro' should just be seen as the umbrella to which all the sub-catergorys fit today, and yes the term has been hi-jacked by house/modern dance, but we all know the score there... ;)
    but alot of artist oppose this take on it, see it as just 'music' and hate pigeon holing and genre lables.

    Disclaimer - this is all just my personal opinion ;)

    Fatback4way
    Vinyl Life
    Invisible Rockers Crew
    Diplomat & Lloyd Da Zoid
    Reeno
    Artificial Arm
    Debonaire

    These are the artists I mostly take notice of, some other good modern stuff about to, I like the Galactic Funk Constellations lp too at the minute, listen to it in the car but don't know the tracks/artists names... :-[

    Quote from bhose;59437

    Cosmo D of Newcleus wrote on a similar thread here on EE some years back the same.. that back in the day he was simply making hip hop music as were all the other artists that we deem now to have been making 'electrofunk' out of New York, Cosmo had never heard of the term 'electrofunk' till the mid 90's...

    If you listen to alot of the music from that era, it was the equipement being used, you had Italo disco, New Wave etc etc, all had a similarity, but we liked a certain strain of this synth music, that being Electro funk,

    even listening to the early electro's(Street sounds), like Project Future - Ray-Gun-Omics, this wasn't a hip hop record really, and some of the early electro stuff, '2, 3, Break' etc was more hip hop than electro funk, it was packaged as a movement by Street Sounds, I don't think it was an Electro Movement(not in the beggining anyway), just the artists where using the same equipment, Roland 808, Linn Drum, Prophet 5, Pro Ones etc...

    I think the early 80's UK Movement was more a hip hop thing, breakdancing, popping, dj, mc's, it was just back then our prefered beats where Electro Funk, Twilight 22, Arthur Baker, Newcleus, Captain Rock, Soul Sonic Force...These beats were great for Popping too...

    for me Electro Funk had it's Real hayday 1982 - 1984, after that it got watered and watered down to non-existence, once digital synths and the M1 came along and analog wasn't cool, and the hip hop artist where using samplers instead to ripp tracks...

    For me 1982,83,84 define Electro Funk...

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    I'm trying to get ableton live 8 to recognize akai miniak thru midi but unable. And does anyone know if i can put my own drum samples on the miniak. Instead of the presets. Ive not been able to find these answers in the manual. Thankyou

    I've bought a Miniak this year and hooked it up to Cubase, I've used a Midi to USB Cable, using midi in/out the back of the Miniak to the pc, also found a good VST controller from Hypersynth, using that I choose the midi in/out of the 'midi to usb' driver, working fine...

    http://www.hypersynth.com/miniak-editor.html

    Quote from Bokkiebeh;58103

    Difficult...
    Miami is immediately associated with Miami Bass...I'd say DXJ put it on the map (in my opinion) with OSÉ and Maggotron. (1983/1984) But before that there was already Electro offcourse...


    So it depends on what you like, and what you perceive as electro.

    Check out the Pandisc label and the Bound Sound label, you will find alot of the important Miami stuff!

    This guy had alot to do with it...

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Amos+Larkins+II

    To me, in the 80's as a kid, 'Electro' was the abreviation of 'Electro Funk', it was the same thing, and to describe it's sound I would say it was 'synthesizer funk/hip hop from outer space' ;D ...

    I viewed the genre hip hop to be the same genre as electro funk, I viewed Grandmaster Flash - White Lines as Jazz Funk back then(not hip hop or electro),

    I found 2 records back then strange though, Cybotron - Techno City and Man Parrish's LP, because the weren't 100%(or at all hip hop based),

    then also got into stuff like early Kurtis Blow(with it's Go-Go influence) and also the Def Jam stuff and started to slowly make a distinction between hip hop & electro...eventually in the 80's electro died out to be replaced by house and hip hop...

    I mean stuff like Man Parrish's LP, some of the tracks on their could not be called Electro Funk, 'Six Simple synthesizers' for example, but 'Hip Hop Be Bop' definately was(for me) Electro Funk.

    I don't think the artists back then were making 'Electro Funk', they where probably just making hip hop based music with Drum Machines and Synthesizers, the term 'Electro' hit the UK with the Street Sounds compilations as far as I was concerned back then, it was the first I'd heard of it anyway...

    That's just my personal opinion of it, wether the term was in great use(describing the music talked about here) before 1982 I don't know...

    Oh yes, I even viewed Freeez - IOU, Pop Goes My Love and Shannon - Let The Music Play as Electro Funk back then...I still do now actually...

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    Loving this, found it on itunes...

    Earl Flint - People Hold On

    Forgot to add larry's dance theme myself, don't know that Sugar Style 909 one, wife asleep next to me so cannot stream it :(

    another 2(one was featured on Jim'll Fix It, I remember watching it lol) :o

    "Dear Jim will you fix it for me to be a hardcore rapper" "now then, now then..." 8)

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